{"id":932,"date":"2008-02-27T21:25:17","date_gmt":"2008-02-28T05:25:17","guid":{"rendered":"\/?p=932"},"modified":"2008-02-27T21:25:17","modified_gmt":"2008-02-28T05:25:17","slug":"handbags-at-dawn","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.identityblog.com\/?p=932","title":{"rendered":"Handbags at dawn?"},"content":{"rendered":"

Here is Pat Patterson's\u00a0post<\/a> on my recent discussion with Ben Laurie.\u00a0\u00a0 Pat\u00a0is a widely respected member of\u00a0Sun's identity team, blogs at Superpatterns<\/a>, and runs the useful\u00a0PlanetIdentity<\/a>\u00a0RSS feed.\u00a0\u00a0 There are a number of ways you could build a Password Manager for CardSpace, but I thought readers would enjoy seeing Pat's\u00a0take on\u00a0it:<\/p>\n

You might have noticed the exchange between Ben<\/a> and Kim<\/a> over the past day or two… Ben made a point that CardSpace makes OpenID redundant<\/a> – why not just send a password to the RP? Kim jumped all over him<\/a> – somewhat misinterpreting what Ben later describes as one of my most diabolical hungover bits of prose ever<\/a>. Ben goes on to clarify that maybe CardSpace can have a role in helping the user manage passwords; Kim says “Hmm… Food for thought”<\/a> (okay, I'm paraphrasing); Ben admits he didn't explain himself too clearly to begin with<\/a>; and, glory be, they're violently agreeing<\/a>. Phew! I thought we were going to be seeing handbags at dawn<\/a>… <\/p>\n

Reading all this lit a spark in my mind of how this could work. The crux is to consider the username\/password token, usually sent as one of a set of possible input<\/em> tokens to an identity provider security token service (IP\/STS), as an output<\/em> token.<\/p>\n

Here's how it would work… Borrowing a diagram from Microsoft's Guide to Interoperating with the Information Card Profile V1.0<\/a>:<\/p>\n

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First of all, the IP\/STS would specify ic:RequireAppliesTo<\/strong> in the managed card. This tells the identity selector to include a wsp:AppliesTo<\/strong> element in the wst:RequestSecurityToken<\/strong> (RST). The IP\/STS is going to need this later…<\/p>\n

Now, the user visits the relying party (RP) in step 1, requesting some resource. In step 2, the ‘service requestor’ (application client with identity selector) requests security policy from the RP. The RP would indicate, in step 3, that it wanted a username\/password token by specifying a token type of http:\/\/docs.oasis-open.org\/wss\/2004\/01\/oasis-200401-wss-username-token-profile-1.0<\/strong> in the policy.<\/p>\n

Now the identity selector presents some set of information cards (hopefully just one) to the user (step 5) and the user selects one (step 6). Steps 7 and 8 would see the RP requesting security policy from the IP\/STS, and the IP\/STS supplying it, exactly as in the standard information card interaction. Here the IP\/STS could require any form of input token, but username\/password is most likely.<\/p>\n

Between steps 8 and 9, the identity selector prompts the user for credentials (bad Microsoft, missing that out of the diagram!) and in step 8, the identity selector packages up the user's credentials in a WS-Trust RST and send them to the IP\/STS.<\/p>\n

Now, here's the interesting bit. The IP\/STS authenticates the user, exactly as in the standard CardSpace case, but now it looks at the wsp:AppliesTo<\/strong> element, and looks up the user's username\/password pair for that RP (this is an implementation detail – there could be a mapping of RP identifiers to username\/password pairs per user, all encrypted on disk, of course). The IP\/STS packages them as a wsse:UsernameToken<\/strong>, which is then encrypted with the RP's public key and returned to the identity selector (step 10). The display token could just show ******** for the value of the password claim. Now we have a nice, securely packaged credential that the identity selector can send to the RP in step 11.<\/p>\n

Here's the other nice bit… All the RP has to do is to decrypt the incoming token and it has the user's username and password, exactly as if they had arrived by a conventional form post. No further customization required at the RP – no changes to directory or database schemas, no extra steps of associating an information card with your account. Passwords on steroids.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

If the\u00a0RP uses https, I'm not even sure there is any need to decrypt at the token layer, which simplifies implementation to\u00a0decoding a simple xml structure.\u00a0 RP's who are looking for\u00a0greated levels of security should switch to public key.<\/p>\n

I'd like to\u00a0hear Pat's ideas about\u00a0the user experience of\u00a0bootstrapping the passwords into the Identity Provider.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

No further customization required at the RP – no changes to directory or database schemas, no extra steps of associating an information card with your account. Passwords on steroids.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":68,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":[],"categories":[15,11,5,4],"tags":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.identityblog.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/932"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.identityblog.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.identityblog.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.identityblog.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/68"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.identityblog.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=932"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.identityblog.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/932\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.identityblog.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=932"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.identityblog.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=932"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.identityblog.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=932"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}