{"id":919,"date":"2008-01-30T17:14:27","date_gmt":"2008-01-31T01:14:27","guid":{"rendered":"\/?p=919"},"modified":"2008-01-31T05:17:38","modified_gmt":"2008-01-31T13:17:38","slug":"the-epic-battle-sun-goes-after-ping","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.identityblog.com\/?p=919","title":{"rendered":"The Epic Battle: Sun goes after Ping Identians"},"content":{"rendered":"

I was awakened from my vacation from the blogosphere today by the braying of Sun\u2019s new YouTube video \u201ccomedy<\/a>\u201d.\u00a0\u00a0 It features a droll engineer with a great sense of deadpan, but when all is said and done, it is bully comedy, with all the subtlety of a bully beating up his smart little brother.<\/p>\n

The premise seems to be that big strong Sun has 35,000 technical support engineers ready to descend in buses on customers who deploy one of Sun\u2019s IDM solutions (could their products require a whole lot of support???), whereas the customers of “little Ping Identity<\/a>\u201d are left on their own to cope with mere off-the-shelf products.<\/p>\n

Ping has been a real innovator <\/a>and thought leader <\/a>in digital identity.\u00a0 Why attack it?\u00a0 I can only see one explanation:\u00a0 the Ping folks must be making a significant dent in Sun\u2019s marketplace.\u00a0 Even so, it is hard to imagine such a low-road response.\u00a0 The word \u201cunseemly\u201d comes to mind.<\/p>\n

FYI, while I have no firsthand experience with Ping,\u00a0various customers have told me good things about their products, attitude and responsiveness.\u00a0 To me that\u2019s the litmus test.<\/p>\n

Cyberspace needs a whole range of players innovating around digital identity.\u00a0 We\u2019re lucky to have Ping in the equation.<\/p>\n

One of the significant questions being posed is whether you need to hire a busload of engineers to deploy federation and identity management.\u00a0 Sun\u2019s video takes it as a given that this is the case, but if I were a customer I would head for the hills when I saw the big Sun bus coming for me.<\/p>\n


\n\"Sun't<\/a><\/p>\n

A meaningful identity metasystem, something capable of providing an identity layer for the internet, must be based on commercial off the shelf products that can be deployed by any system administrator.\u00a0 Ping Identity is pushing the envelope<\/a> in this area, as are a number of us.\u00a0 Our goal is achieving ubiquity, not the renting out of consultants.<\/p>\n

Beyond the technical issues, we need to work as an industry towards \u201cfederation boilerplates\u201d and a legal framework that drives the cost of creating virtual organizations to zero.<\/p>\n

Since identity requires all of us to interoperate, I think people should hold off on attack ads and concentrate on expanding the market.\u00a0<\/p>\n

I don\u2019t normally criticize any of the identity players for their strategy, but I sure would like to see Sun go after the 99.9% of organizations with no federation framework rather than turning on Ping and its successes.<\/p>\n

This having been said, Ping doesn\u2019t need me to come to its defense.\u00a0 Its fearless leader, Andre Durand, responded with a hilarious video called The Epic Battle: 72 VS 35,000<\/a>, that blows the original Sun video right out of the water.\u00a0 Don\u2019t miss it.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

I sure would like to see industry players go after the 99.9% of organizations with no federation framework rather than turning on the smaller organizations who are having successes<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":68,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":[],"categories":[2],"tags":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.identityblog.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/919"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.identityblog.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.identityblog.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.identityblog.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/68"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.identityblog.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=919"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.identityblog.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/919\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.identityblog.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=919"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.identityblog.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=919"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.identityblog.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=919"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}