{"id":670,"date":"2007-02-06T11:06:43","date_gmt":"2007-02-06T19:06:43","guid":{"rendered":"\/?p=670"},"modified":"2007-02-06T11:10:47","modified_gmt":"2007-02-06T19:10:47","slug":"scott-kveton-on-cardspace-and-openid","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.identityblog.com\/?p=670","title":{"rendered":"Scott Kveton on CardSpace and OpenID"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Many of the people adding OpenID support to their blogs and services&nbsp;are using <a href=\"http:\/\/www.janrain.com\" class=\"broken_link\">JanRain&#39;s<\/a> libraries.&nbsp; Scott, the company&#39;s CEO,&nbsp;<a href=\"http:\/\/kveton.com\/blog\/?p=221\" class=\"broken_link\">addresses<\/a> the worry&nbsp;some&nbsp;members of his community&nbsp;may have about a big, powerful company&nbsp;getting involved with the bottoms-up technology they have worked on so hard.&nbsp; I actually have&nbsp; a lot of sympathy for this concern, and for peoples&#8217; feelings about the technology they have developed.&nbsp; If we were coming to &#8220;take over&#8221;, it would really be bad news for everyone.&nbsp;&nbsp;But Scott Kveton, Dick Hardt, Michael Graves and myself aren&#39;t the kind of people who would let this happen.<\/p>\n<p>What I really like about Scott&#39;s comments is the way he focusses, without any&nbsp;bias,&nbsp;on what is good about the component technologies and their synergy.&nbsp; This is what real engineering is about, in my humble opinion.&nbsp; It&#39;s one of the things that will really drive us towards the Identity Big Bang.&nbsp;&nbsp;And the whole world will benefit.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>OpenID has always been about convergence. When <a onclick=\"javascript:urchinTracker('\/outbound\/brad.livejournal.com');\" href=\"http:\/\/brad.livejournal.com\/\"><font color=\"#000000\">Brad<\/font><\/a>, <a onclick=\"javascript:urchinTracker('\/outbound\/www.davidrecordon.com');\" href=\"http:\/\/www.davidrecordon.com\/\"><font color=\"#000000\">David<\/font><\/a> and <a onclick=\"javascript:urchinTracker('\/outbound\/netmesh.info');\" href=\"http:\/\/netmesh.info\/jernst\"><font color=\"#000000\">Johannes<\/font><\/a> talked about how OpenID and Yadis could work together over a year ago. When the XRI folks brought their amazing people and technology to be integrated into OpenID 2.0 last Spring. This past Summer when <a onclick=\"javascript:urchinTracker(&#039;\/outbound\/sxip.com&#039;);\" href=\"http:\/\/sxip.com\/\" class=\"broken_link\"><font color=\"#000000\">Sxip Identity<\/font><\/a> joined the OpenID party by joining in on developing the specification and offering up their <a onclick=\"javascript:urchinTracker('\/outbound\/openid.net');\" href=\"http:\/\/openid.net\/specs\/openid-attribute-exchange-1_0-04.html\"><font color=\"#000000\">attribute exchange specification<\/font><\/a> to the OpenID community. And now today, we have a commitment from Microsoft to take part in the OpenID community as well as enable the technology for their future identity products.<\/p>\n<p>There are a couple of points I\u00e2\u20ac\u2122d like to make outside of the above announcement to hopefully address any concerns that the OpenID community might have:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>JanRain will never <strong>require<\/strong> users of our libraries or services to use Windows CardSpace \u00e2\u201e\u00a2. We offer support for this technology as another option for users much like using our <a onclick=\"javascript:urchinTracker(&#039;\/outbound\/blog.janrain.com&#039;);\" href=\"http:\/\/blog.janrain.com\/2007\/01\/24\/myopenidcom-release-hullabaloo\/\" class=\"broken_link\"><font color=\"#000000\">Safe SignIn and Personal Icon<\/font><\/a> technologies on <a onclick=\"javascript:urchinTracker(&#039;\/outbound\/myopenid.com&#039;);\" href=\"http:\/\/myopenid.com\/\" class=\"broken_link\"><font color=\"#000000\">MyOpenID.com<\/font><\/a>. We\u00e2\u20ac\u2122ll also continue to support the OpenID efforts going on with <a onclick=\"javascript:urchinTracker('\/outbound\/radar.oreilly.com');\" href=\"http:\/\/radar.oreilly.com\/archives\/2007\/01\/firefox_30_requ.html\"><font color=\"#000000\">Mozilla and Firefox<\/font><\/a>.<\/li>\n<li>Windows CardSpace \u00e2\u201e\u00a2 is shipping with Vista today and is a well thought-out technology that helps address many of the privacy and security concerns that people have had with OpenID. OpenID helps users describe their identity across many sites in a public fashion. The two together are very complimentary products and each has its strength.<\/li>\n<li>Microsoft did not cave in to the OpenID community and the OpenID community is giving nothing up to Microsoft. This is a collaboration on bringing the best technology to the marketplace as quickly as possible to help secure users and solve the single sign-on solution once and for all.<\/li>\n<li>Please reserve judgment on what this all means until you see it all work together. The technology is really quite simple and the ramifications for end-users is huge. It also goes a very long way to completely addressing the phishing concerns we\u00e2\u20ac\u2122ve heard so much about.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/blockquote>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Scott says, &#8220;Please reserve judgment on what this all means until you see it all work together. The technology is really quite simple and the ramifications for end-users is huge.&#8221;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":68,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":[],"categories":[2,8,22,4],"tags":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.identityblog.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/670"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.identityblog.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.identityblog.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.identityblog.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/68"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.identityblog.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=670"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.identityblog.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/670\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.identityblog.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=670"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.identityblog.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=670"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.identityblog.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=670"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}