{"id":319,"date":"2004-11-29T00:52:31","date_gmt":"2004-11-29T00:52:31","guid":{"rendered":"\/?p=319"},"modified":"2012-11-01T14:13:54","modified_gmt":"2012-11-01T14:13:54","slug":"hard-to-argue","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.identityblog.com\/?p=319","title":{"rendered":"Hard to argue"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.craigburton.com\/\">Craig Burton<\/a> has been generously heaping kudos my way for aruging that a discussion of the philosophy of identity is orthogonal to the discussion we should have about the laws of identity. And I&amp;#39m going to hold firmly to that direction, even though I received this titillating comment &#8211; probably more relevant to <a href=\"http:\/\/www.freeid.org\/\">Scott Lemon&amp;#39s Axioms<\/a> &#8211; from David Rollow of CSG Systems.<\/p>\n<blockquote style=\"margin-right: 0px;\" dir=\"ltr\"><p>Take a look at W. V. O. Quine&amp;#39s essay &#8220;Two Dogmas of Empiricism&#8221; for relevant philosophical discussion about the most basic identity issues. If you understand it you will realize that the very idea of &#8220;axioms of identity&#8221; makes no sense. The &#8220;personal&#8221; identity discussion in philosophy is about things like persistence, sameness of tokens observed at different times, self-knowledge and self-identity, problems of no interest in the age of identity theft. The Quine essay is at a more fundamental level of discussion but it applies if you apply it.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p dir=\"ltr\">Yes, the &#8220;it applies if you apply it&#8221; view of philosophy is hard to argue with, especially if you argue with it.<\/p>\n<p dir=\"ltr\">\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Craig Burton has been generously heaping kudos my way for aruging that a discussion of the philosophy of identity is orthogonal to the discussion we should have about the laws of identity. And I&amp;#39m going to hold firmly to that direction, even though I received this titillating comment &#8211; probably more relevant to Scott Lemon&amp;#39s &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/www.identityblog.com\/?p=319\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading <span class=\"screen-reader-text\">Hard to argue<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":68,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":[],"categories":[2,1],"tags":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.identityblog.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/319"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.identityblog.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.identityblog.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.identityblog.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/68"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.identityblog.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=319"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/www.identityblog.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/319\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":1279,"href":"https:\/\/www.identityblog.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/319\/revisions\/1279"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.identityblog.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=319"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.identityblog.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=319"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.identityblog.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=319"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}