{"id":293,"date":"2004-12-14T15:40:09","date_gmt":"2004-12-14T15:40:09","guid":{"rendered":"\/?p=293"},"modified":"2012-11-01T13:45:28","modified_gmt":"2012-11-01T13:45:28","slug":"totally-asleep-at-the-wheel","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.identityblog.com\/?p=293","title":{"rendered":"Totally asleep at the wheel"},"content":{"rendered":"
I just received mail asking why I hadn&#39t answered the marvelous post<\/a> by Marc Canter<\/a>, father of Macromedia. I have to admit I was totally asleep at the wheel – could it be my day job?<\/h5>\n

Marc opines in his lovable blend of angel and baseball bat:<\/p>\n

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Here&#39s<\/a> where Kim tells us about how ‘Passport is dead’ – while simultaneously being used by 200M people. MSN Spaces sure uses it. ]<\/p>\n

I&#39d bet that his new InfoCards technology super-sets Passport – making it just one of many identity systems – which all have to work together. So Sxip, Liberty and Passport\/WS-* all using i-names, FOAF and XFN. To be exact.<\/p>\n

So what I&#39d say to Kim is: “Hey Kim? Where&#39s that all expense paid, guru fees junket, PR suck-up strategy session where Microsoft pays us to go up there, eat Oyster stew and learn about InfoCards?”<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n

And we reply with even more open source ideas – for free.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Well, I&#39ve been trying to animate a discussion about the objective factors constraining what an identity system must be in order to be successful. And a bunch of the people you mention are looking at this deeply and thinking about the fundamental issues in identity that will make a universal system possible.<\/p>\n

I don&#39t personally think that Microsoft should operate an identity provider other than for its own properties – and I don&#39t think that&#39s in our plans. I do think we should provide great identity software – that interoperates with great identity software from others. I also think MSN properties should be able to use other identity providers if that&#39s what people want – so Passport needs to be able to federate in that sense.<\/p>\n

Further, I&#39m convinced no one will get out of this without reving what they&#39ve done so far. We all need to move forward. And I think this discussion shows many people are willing to move forward.<\/p>\n

So yes, we need an open, inclusive system, but the constituent technologies all need to come into alignment with the laws of identity in order to succeed.<\/p>\n

By the way, I want to organize some meetings. And I&#39ll bet I can get Microsoft to spring for the oyster stew. But if I don&#39t want the meetings to be PR junkets – and I don&#39t – I&#39m worried we&#39ll have to dispense with the all-expense paid guru fees part.<\/p>\n

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I just received mail asking why I hadn&#39t answered the marvelous post by Marc Canter, father of Macromedia. I have to admit I was totally asleep at the wheel – could it be my day job? Marc opines in his lovable blend of angel and baseball bat: Here&#39s where Kim tells us about how ‘Passport … Continue reading Totally asleep at the wheel<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":68,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":[],"categories":[6,2,1],"tags":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.identityblog.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/293"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.identityblog.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.identityblog.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.identityblog.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/68"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.identityblog.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=293"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/www.identityblog.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/293\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":1243,"href":"https:\/\/www.identityblog.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/293\/revisions\/1243"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.identityblog.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=293"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.identityblog.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=293"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.identityblog.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=293"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}